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		<title>Watered Down Cider Definition</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The new definition of cider for customs and excise purposes is to allow cider and perry to be sold as such with as little as 35% juice content, and possibly even less if the original juice is high gravity. The &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/discussion/watered-down-cider-definition.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new definition of cider for customs and excise purposes is to allow cider and perry to be sold as such with as little as 35% juice content, and possibly even less if the original juice is high gravity.</p>
<p>The Statutory Instrument can be viewed from the Office of Public Sector Information site at</p>
<p><a href="http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2010/pdf/uksi_20101914_en.pdf">http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2010/pdf/uksi_20101914_en.pdf</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Cider</p>
<p>2. In section 1 of the Alcoholic Liquor Duties Act 1979 (the alcoholic liquors dutiable under that Act), in subsection (6) (definition of “cider”)(b), for the words after “section 55B(1) below,” substitute— “cider (or perry)—<br />
(a)	which is of a strength exceeding 1.2 per cent but less than 8.5 per cent,<br />
(b) which is obtained from the fermentation of apple or pear juice, without the addition at any time of—<br />
(i) anyalcoholicliquor,or (ii) any liquor or substance which   communicates colour or flavour,<br />
other than such as the Commissioners may allow as appearing to them to be necessary to make cider (or perry),<br />
(c) the pre-fermentation mixture for which satisfies the pre-fermentation juice requirement, and<br />
(d)	which satisfies the final product juice requirement. For the purposes of this subsection—<br />
(i) “the pre-fermentation mixture” for cider (or perry) means the mixture of juice and other ingredients in which the fermentation from which the cider (or perry) is obtained takes place, as that mixture exists immediately before the fermentation process commences,<br />
(ii) if the cider (or perry) consists of a blend of two or more liquors constituting cider (or perry), references in this subsection to the pre-fermentation mixture are to the pre-fermentation mixtures for each of those liquors taken as a whole,<br />
(iii) the pre-fermentation mixture for the cider (or perry) satisfies the pre- fermentation juice requirement if the volume of apple or pear juice of a gravity(a) of at least 1033 degrees included in the mixture is a volume not less than 35 per cent of the volume of the pre-fermentation mixture,<br />
(iv) the cider (or perry) satisfies the final product juice requirement if the aggregate of the volume of apple or pear juice of a gravity of at least 1033 degrees included in the pre-fermentation mixture and the volume of any such apple or pear juice added after fermentation commences is a volume not less than 35 per cent of the volume of the cider (or perry), and<br />
(v) the volume of any juice, the pre-fermentation mixture and the cider (or perry) is to be computed as at 20°C.”.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t really care whether the exact interpretation of this means that Industrial cider makers can get away with making cider at only 35% juice content, or maybe even quite a bit less than that. The very idea of condoning such low juice industrial concoctions as genuine cider and perry for the purposes of profiting from the considerable tax advantages compared with other acoholic drinks is to be condemned. </p>
<p>Accepting the definition of cider with only 35% juice content can only be a setback for the real cider making movement, and anybody supporting it is deliberately conniving with big industrial cider makers to continue to deceive cider drinkers into believing the big brand ciders advertising lies. </p>
<p>About seven years ago, there was a prolonged and open discussion in the craft cider community to arrive at a definition of real cider which came out with the following:</p>
<blockquote><p>Real cider is the product of fermenting fresh apple juice.</p>
<p>The amount of apple juice which went into the final product must be between 85 and 100% and should be clearly stated on the container it is sold in or dispensed from.</p>
<p>No artificial sweeteners, flavourings or colourings are permitted.</p>
<p>( For real perry substitute pear juice ) ukcider 30/11/2003
</p></blockquote>
<p>The new government definition of cider at 35% juice for tax purposes will permanently legitimise the practice of creating low quality, low juice drink concoctions in which most of the alcohol is derived from corn syrup, and then selling it with the image of unsullied natural orchard scenes. </p>
<p>The big question many real cider makers and drinkers will be asking is why is this legislation being supported by the NACM and their apologists within the craft cider movement?</p>
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		<title>Helford Creek Cyder</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 06:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Helford Creek Cyder Originally uploaded by AndyRob I bought this bottle of Helford Creek Cyder in the Costcutter shop at Carnon Downs in Cornwall on the way between Truro and Falmouth. At £3.99 I didn&#8217;t know whether to expect a &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/products/helford-creek-cyder.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>I bought this bottle of <a href="http://www.helfordcreek.co.uk/store/index.php">Helford Creek Cyder</a> in the Costcutter shop at Carnon Downs in Cornwall on the way between Truro and Falmouth. At £3.99 I didn&#8217;t know whether to expect a good quality craft cider or a bit of a touristy rip-off but the credentials on the label seemed sound and there wasn&#8217;t any other decent cider available in the shop, unless you like cans of Rattler or Merrydown. The label didn&#8217;t give too much away:</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_and_Perry_producers_-_full_list_arranged_by_county#Cornwall">Helford Creek Cyder</a><br />
Sparkling Medium</p>
<p>6.5% vol</p>
<p>Situated in the heart of Cornwall, near the Helford River, on a small 18th century farm.<br />
Helford Creek produce delicious apple juice and cider traditionally matured in oak barrels</p>
<p>Produced in Cornwall on the Lizard peninsula.</p>
<p>Mudgeon Vean<br />
St Martin<br />
Helston<br />
Cornwall TR12 6DB<br />
Tel: 01326231341  01326231933</p></blockquote>
<p>The cider was good quality, nice and clean tasting with a high juice content I think, but definitely some water added. Not a high proportion of westcountry cider apples, more subtle than that in the new wine style cider with some eating apple varieties included I would suspect. It tasted more interesting once the initial fizz had died down the cider was allowed to warm up a bit. You don&#8217;t want to drink it straight from the fridge, not that it ever gets that boiling hot in Cornwall anyway.</p>
<p>Compares well with a bottle of <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Supermarkets#Co-op">Tillington Hills</a> cider from the Coop, if you can ever find any.</p>
<p>An interesting touch is the wine like stamp on the back label, which reminds one of a <a href="http://catavino.net/how-to-read-a-rioja-wine-label/">rioja label</a> Denominacion de Origen Calificada. It&#8217;s a badge which implies approval by <a href="http://www.cornwall.gov.uk/">Cornwall County Council</a>, my old employers no less and says:</p>
<blockquote><p>Made in Cornwall</p>
<p>Cornwall County Council Approved Origin Scheme</p></blockquote>
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<p>So there.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two unrelated provocations cause me to blog about the nature of cider and where it belongs related to other beverages. The first is a resurfacing of the old strategic conflict as to whether it&#8217;s worth putting an effort into attempting &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/campaign/cider-is-apple-wine.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two unrelated provocations cause me to blog about the nature of cider and where it belongs related to other beverages. The first is a resurfacing of the old strategic conflict as to whether it&#8217;s worth putting an effort into attempting to reform the soul of real ale organisations in order to push them more in the direction of  understanding cider and perry.  The second is a call from a wine blogger to widen the conversation about wine into the wider food and drink blogosphere.</p>
<p>So all I want to establish at this point really, is the fact that cider and perry have a lot more in common with wine than they do with beer.</p>
<p>Wine and cider are made from pressed fruit juice which is left to ferment and mature slowly. They are not made from a selection of recipes which always produce an identical product  year in year out like beer, which is created from chemically neutralised and adjusted water with added malt sugars and hops flavourings.</p>
<p>Each craft cider or perry maker develops their own blend of fruit and either natural or selected yeast fauna. The vintage  will vary from year to year almost as much as the terroir from one cider producing area to another.</p>
<p>The problem is that industrial cider is seen as little more than an alternative brand of lager beer, but this has nothing to do with the full juice craft cider which we promote at ukcider. And the role of cider and perry within the real ale organisations will always be a minority role, and that has proved to be much more of a restriction that it has an opportunity. Real cider and perry need a campaigning organisation of our own, not one tied to the interests of the lucrative beer festival organisers, which will always attract overwhelmingly beer drinkers.</p>
<p>In the meanwhile we would do well to explain , explain and explain again that cider has much more in common with other fruit wines than it does with beer.  You need to understand that in order to produce quality craft cider, and to appreciate it too. To that end we  would do well to read, learn and associate a lot more with our European counterparts with small vineyards who produce craft grape wines than with the beer drinkers.</p>
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		<title>Craft Cider Making by Andrew Lea</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Craft Cider Making by Andrew Lea Longstanding cider making guru on UKCider Andrew Lea who once worked at Long Ashton Cider Research station has a new book out, called simply &#8220;Craft Cider Making&#8220;. Andrew dispenses valuable cider wisdom to beginners &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/books/craft-cider-making-by-andrew-lea.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Craft Cider Making by Andrew Lea</h2>
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<p>Longstanding cider making guru on UKCider <strong>Andrew Lea</strong> who once worked at Long Ashton Cider Research station has a new book out, called simply &#8220;<strong>Craft Cider Making</strong>&#8220;.</p>
<p>Andrew dispenses valuable cider wisdom to beginners and experts alike on the <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Ukcider:Community_Portal">ukcider  mailing list discussion group</a> from <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/How_to_make_cider">how to make cider</a> to dealing with emergencies. </p>
<p>The new book is out on the shelves at discerning bookshops, and available now via amazon.co.uk below</p>
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<p>A book on <em>Craft Cider Making by Andrew Lea</em> ? &#8220;That one&#8217;s got to be a must!&#8221;</p>
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Dear Nick,</p>
<p>ukcider is a community of 500+ people appreciative of craft cider and<br />
perry. We claim amongst our midst a substantial minority of members<br />
who are actively involved in the production of real cider and perry on<br />
a small scale, and maintain the definitive online guide to good cider<br />
outlets and cider making advice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m writing to you today on behalf of ukcider to endorse the letter<br />
which one of our members, Roy Bailey has recently sent in regarding<br />
the 7,000 litre exemption as adopted below:</p>
<p>&#8220;We understand that the National Association of Cider Makers (<strong>NACM</strong>) is in support<br />
of the EU&#8217;s proposal to get rid of the 70 hectolitres duty exemption on<br />
cider and perry.</p>
<p>We believe that this would be a grave mistake of the part of the NACM,<br />
and would be disastrous as far as craft cider makers are concerned,<br />
leading to many of them ceasing production.</p>
<p>The present exemption is a valuable concession which has enabled a large<br />
number of small cider makers to start up in recent years, unbedevilled<br />
with the paperwork and expense attendant on paying duty. They have been<br />
able to produce interesting and distinctive products, making use of<br />
fruit that might otherwise go to waste, and sell their cider and perry<br />
at a competitive price. Like the micro-brewers, they have been<br />
instrumental in introducing new tastes and flavours which the larger<br />
commercial producers fight shy of.</p>
<p>Instead of being confined to the West Country and East Anglia, cider<br />
making is now carried on in the majority of the counties of England and<br />
Wales, and even in Scotland.</p>
<p>Furthermore, many of these craft producers have sought out and rescued<br />
rare and threatened varieties of apples and pears, grafting them and<br />
planting new orchards which add diversity to the countryside and to the<br />
national stock of fruit.</p>
<p>The brewing industry has only recently been able to enjoy a concession<br />
similar to cider&#8217;s duty exemption in the form of Progressive Beer Duty.<br />
This has enabled new breweries to start up, and existing ones to either<br />
invest in new equipment or maintain competitive prices.</p>
<p>Rather than abolish the 70 hl concession, it should be retained and<br />
amended so that duty is only paid on the excess over that limit when it<br />
occurs, rather than on the whole of the production as at present. The<br />
current arrangement penalises those producers who wish to produce<br />
between 70 and about 140 hl per annum.</p>
<p>If the NACM goes ahead with its support of this EU proposal (and once<br />
again this is a case of the EU sticking its nose into something that is<br />
not its business) then it will only provide more ammunition for those<br />
who believe that the <em>NACM</em> exists only to further the interests of the<br />
big commercial producers, rather than of cider makers in general.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p><span class="sg">Andy Roberts</span></p>
<p>ukcider convenor<br />
<a href="http://ukcider.co.uk//" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" target="_blank">http://ukcider.co.uk</a><br />
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