Published at February 5, 2009
in wiki.
I’m afraid there’s no actual cider content in this post, it’s about the ukcider website. After months if not years of frustration with the former web hosting company, ukcider.co.uk has now moved to a new host. Migrating the cider wiki site was a job I’d put off for too long, but now its done and I hope the new, carefully researched chosen web hosting company will provide better reliability, possibly faster performance and certainly less exorbitant fees. For users of the site there shouldn’t have been any noticeable disruption after the downtime last weekend, and all user accounts and logins have been transferred across exactly as they were. The only likely glitch could be with images that have been uploaded to the wiki ( not the ones embedded from uk cider on flickr) because the mediawiki directory hierarchy for storing media files is convoluted and most of the permission had to be corrected manually. This means there could be one or two pictures which I missed, in which case you can either upload them again or let me know the page in question and I’ll try to find them and fix it. The version of mediawiki remains the same, but the host’s PHP and mySQL are more recent versions. Do let me know if there are any related problems with this blog too, which has also moved along with the domain.
Now back to making cider and expanding the online cider and perry expertise at www.ukcider.co.uk
Ukcider is running a campaign to celebrate pubs up and down the country where they are proud to serve real cider. It’s taken a bit of a while to decide on the design for the real cider stickers and posters and to work out a way to get them printed without any central funding, but where there’s an enthusiastic community like ours there’s always a way.

A short run of prototype stickers have already been distributed to most of the real cider pubs in South Dorset thanks to Rose who reports a great reception wherever they are offered. The stickers themselves have been designed by Jez, and printed in small batches by Dick Dunn over in the USA and posted over to Rose here in the UK. Now there are just enough to send out a handful each to people who know they can definitely get them put up in doorways and windows of pubs that serve full juice real cider and perry.
The idea to get this up to the next stage is that the artwork is made available on the ukcider wiki so that anybody with a good quality printer can follow the instructions to make some more for local distribution. There are over 1,000 cider pubs recommended in our online cider pub guide but we want to concentrate on those that sell unique, local craft ciders. Much as we really do appreciate all those Wetherspoons pubs that sell Westons Old Rosie and Vintage cider, both excellent drinks, we are aiming at the outlets for smaller producers at first.
Apple Day 2007 is on or around October 21st.
Thanks to Martin of HarrodHorticultural for commenting with his article about Apple Day from last year, the original being here
There are a huge number of events this year, because apple day just keeps on growing and the cider wiki current events page for October points to the common ground apple day page where you can see them all listed county by county.
Now there’s also a shorter list of Apple Day events which include cider in some form, and which local event organisers can easily add to just by editing the wiki as normal. It’s not late to think about putting on a small apple day event even now. If you have a common orchard nearby you could just invite the neighbourhood round to admire the fallen fruit, learn a bit about apple varieties and then go for a meal afterwards with some cider or perry. Or make it a childrens party day with apple juice and a drop of real cider for the grown ups.
Myself, I’ll be making my way to Walthamstow Apple Day on October 13th and I do hope you manage to find an event near enough to wherever you live as well and support it on the day. If you do know of any events in October loosely connected with apple day and incorporating cider in some form then please add them to the Apple Day page.
Published at September 18, 2007
in wiki.
Last year we had a very successful “FAQ month” during November which launched a large page on the Wiki called the Cider Makers FAQ
The rationale behind it was explained as follows:
FAQ month is during November 2006. The purpose is to concentrate our combined efforts for a shortish period on “barn raising’ to help build and expand the cider makers FAQ ( Frequently Asked Question page(s)). No obligation on anybody, but even if only a few people take part, it could make a big difference and be enjoyable and productive through teamwork.
During the designated month, we can have different people taking on various roles eg
* Ask new questions on the mailing list
* Reply to them
* Copy the most relevant answers onto the FAQ
* Volunteer specialist areas of expertise by posting little bits of knowhow onto the wiki * Go back through the group archives and recover previous good answers and questions
* Formatting, proofreading, correcting and editing wiki pages.
* Learn more about cider making and about collaborating on a wiki FAQ.
* other roles
The aspiration is that at the end of it we will have a substantially enlarged and more useful cider makers FAQ section available.
In preparation for this year I’ve reorganised the one long FAQ page into a series of pages, so now there are separate pages for
General_cider_making_issues
Fruit Tree Orchards FAQ
Cider Press and fruit pressing FAQ
Fermentation
Alcohol Content
Bottling
Faults and additives_FAQ
Cider making Equipment
Rural_Myths_about_cider_and_cidermaking
each tagged with the category: Cider makers FAQ
also noted some cider pages on jottit.com
Thanks to User:Tygon4 who uploaded the original large size photo of this special cider house to the ukcider wiki last night. There were some problems with the image page which I haven’t got to the bottom of yet, but it was still possible to view the picture so I’ve uploaded a smaller version and also added it to the Flickr ukcider pool.
Thanks to Phil Andrews, the information about French cider producers has been extended on the ukcider wiki. We now have over 350 cider farm addresses listed, many with links to their own websites and all of the French ‘departements’ named which makes it a bit easier to see where they are.
The interesting this is that as well as the well know cider producing regions of Normandy and Britanny, there’s also a fair amount of small scale production going on in other areas, far away. The Champagne and Burgundy districts in particular.
To get an idea of where the various French Departements actually are, relatively, I found the following map helpful:

The following is a link to the 10 Downing Street petitions site:
”We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to oppose the abolition of the small scale cider producer exemption.”
More details from petition creator
Ever since duty was introduced on cider and Perry in the 70s there has been a small scale cider exemption in place.
This allows small scale producers to escape duty if they produce less than 70 hectolitres in a year.
This exemption was put in place to protect the rural producers for whom small scale cider/Perry production was part of their rural culture.
Currently it acts as an incentive for small scale producers to be given the opportunity to perfect their ‘wares’ without an onerous tax burden.
The EU Commission are setting up a working group to address special excise duty conditions relating to small scale industries this is likely to result in the removal of the exemption
I petition the prime minister to instruct his ministers to resist this to ensure the diverse small cider producers in this country can continue to produce cider.
If the exemption is removed many small cider producers will cease production and a vital part of Great Britain’s heritage will be lost forever.
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