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		<title>UKCider Has Moved</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 09:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m afraid there&#8217;s no actual cider content in this post, it&#8217;s about the ukcider website. After months if not years of frustration with the former web hosting company, ukcider.co.uk has now moved to a new host. Migrating the cider wiki &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/wiki/ukcider-has-moved.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid there&#8217;s no actual cider content in this post, it&#8217;s about the ukcider website. After months if not years of frustration with the former web hosting company, ukcider.co.uk has now moved to a new host. Migrating the <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk">cider wiki</a> site was a job I&#8217;d put off for too long, but now its done and I hope the new, carefully researched chosen web hosting company will provide  better reliability, possibly faster performance and certainly less exorbitant  fees. For users of the site there shouldn&#8217;t have been any noticeable disruption after the downtime last weekend, and all user accounts and logins have been transferred across exactly as they were. The only likely glitch could be with images that have been uploaded to the wiki ( <strong>not</strong> the ones embedded from <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/cider/">uk cider on flickr</a>)  because the mediawiki directory hierarchy for storing media files is convoluted and most of the permission had to be corrected manually.  This means there could be one or two pictures which I missed, in which case you can either upload them again or let me know the page in question and I&#8217;ll try to find them and fix it. The version of mediawiki remains the same, but the host&#8217;s PHP and mySQL are more recent versions. Do let me know if there are any related problems with this blog too, which has also moved along with the domain. </p>
<p>Now back to <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_makers_FAQ">making cider</a> and expanding the online cider and perry expertise at <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk">www.ukcider.co.uk</a>  </p>
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		<title>UK cider stickers and posters</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>uk cider</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ukcider is running a campaign to celebrate pubs up and down the country where they are proud to serve real cider. It&#8217;s taken a bit of a while to decide on the design for the real cider stickers and posters &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/campaign/uk-cider-stickers-and-posters.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ukcider  is  running a campaign to celebrate  pubs  up and down the country where they are proud to serve<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Real_Cider"> real cider</a>.  It&#8217;s taken a bit of a while to decide on the design for the  <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Real_Cider_Pub_Stickers_and_Posters" title="real cider stickers and posters">real cider stickers and posters</a> and to work out a way to get them printed without any central funding, but  where there&#8217;s an enthusiastic community like ours there&#8217;s always a way.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/images/stickers/UKCider-UKapples-1up.gif" alt="UK cider stickers and posters UKCider UKapples 1up"  title="UK cider stickers and posters pic" /></p>
<p>A short run of prototype stickers have already been distributed to most of the real cider pubs in South <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_Pub_Guide_to_Dorset">Dorset</a> thanks to <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/The_Cidermaking_Year_by_Rose_Grant" title="cider by Rosie">Rose</a> who reports a great reception wherever they are offered. The stickers themselves have been designed by Jez, and printed in small batches by Dick Dunn over in the USA and posted over to Rose here in the UK.  Now there are just enough to send out a handful each to people who know they can definitely  get them put up in doorways and windows of pubs that serve full juice real  cider and perry.</p>
<p>The idea to get this up to the next stage is that the artwork is <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Real_Cider_Pub_Stickers_and_Posters">made available on the ukcider wiki</a> so that anybody with a good quality printer can follow the instructions to make some more for local distribution. There are over 1,000 cider pubs recommended in our <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_Pub_Guide" title="real cider pub guide ">online cider pub guide</a> but we want to concentrate on those that sell unique, local craft ciders. Much as we really do appreciate all those Wetherspoons pubs that sell Westons Old Rosie and Vintage cider, both excellent drinks, we are aiming at the outlets for smaller producers at first.</p>
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		<title>Apple Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple Day 2007 is on or around October 21st. Thanks to Martin of HarrodHorticultural for commenting with his article about Apple Day from last year, the original being here There are a huge number of events this year, because apple &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/festivals/apple-day.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h2>Apple Day 2007 is on or around October 21st.</h2>
<p>Thanks to Martin of <a href="http://www.harrodhorticultural.com">HarrodHorticultural</a> for <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/blog/festivals/photos-from-rochford.html#comments">commenting</a> with his article about <strong>Apple Day</strong> from last year, the original being <a href="http://www.harrodhorticultural.com/weblog/archives/2006/10/an_apple_a_day.html">here</a></p>
<p>There are a huge number of events this year, because apple day just keeps on growing and the <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Current_events#2007_October">cider wiki current events page for October</a>  points to the common ground apple day page where you can see them all listed county by county.</p>
<p>Now there&#8217;s also a shorter list  of <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Apple_Day">Apple Day events which include <strong>cider</strong></a> in some form, and which local event organisers can easily add to just by editing the wiki as normal. It&#8217;s not late to think about putting on a small apple day event even now. If you have a common orchard nearby you could just invite the neighbourhood round to admire the fallen fruit, learn a bit about apple varieties and then go for a meal afterwards with some cider or perry.  Or make it a childrens party day with apple juice and a drop of real cider for the grown ups.</p>
<p>Myself, I&#8217;ll be making my way to <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/eastlondonorganicgardeners/apple-day">Walthamstow Apple Day</a> on October 13th  and I do hope you manage to find an event near enough to wherever you live as well and support it on the day.  If you do know of any  events  in October loosely connected with apple day and incorporating cider in some form then please add them to the <em><a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Apple_Day">Apple  Day</a></em> page.</p>
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		<title>Getting ready for FAQ month</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 12:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year we had a very successful &#8220;FAQ month&#8221; during November which launched a large page on the Wiki called the Cider Makers FAQ The rationale behind it was explained as follows: FAQ month is during November 2006. The purpose &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/wiki/getting-ready-for-faq-month.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year we had a very successful &#8220;<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/FAQ_Month">FAQ month</a>&#8221; during November which launched a large page on the Wiki called the <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_makers_FAQ">Cider Makers FAQ</a></p>
<p>The rationale behind it was explained as follows: </p>
<blockquote><p>FAQ month is during November 2006. The purpose is to concentrate our combined efforts for a shortish period on &#8220;barn raising&#8217; to help build and expand the cider makers FAQ ( Frequently Asked Question page(s)). No obligation on anybody, but even if only a few people take part, it could make a big difference and be enjoyable and productive through teamwork.</p>
<p>During the designated month, we can have different people taking on various roles eg</p>
<p>* Ask new questions on the mailing list<br />
* Reply to them<br />
* Copy the most relevant answers onto the FAQ<br />
* Volunteer specialist areas of expertise by posting little bits of knowhow onto the wiki * Go back through the group archives and recover previous good answers and questions<br />
* Formatting, proofreading, correcting and editing wiki pages.<br />
* Learn more about cider making and about collaborating on a wiki FAQ.<br />
* other roles </p>
<p>The aspiration is that at the end of it we will have a substantially enlarged and more useful cider makers FAQ section available.   </p>
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<p>In preparation for this year I&#8217;ve reorganised the one long FAQ page into a series of pages, so now there are separate pages for<br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/General cider making issues">General_cider_making_issues</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Fruit_Tree_Orchards_FAQ">Fruit Tree Orchards FAQ</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_Press_and_fruit_pressing_FAQ">Cider Press and fruit pressing FAQ</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Fermentation">Fermentation</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Alcohol_Content">Alcohol Content</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Bottling">Bottling</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Faults_and_additives_FAQ">Faults and additives_FAQ</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cidermaking_Equipment">Cider making Equipment</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Rural Myths about cider and cidermaking">Rural_Myths_about_cider_and_cidermaking</a></p>
<p>each tagged with the category: <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Category:Cider_makers_FAQ">Cider makers FAQ<br />
</a></p>
<p>also noted some <a href="http://cider.jottit.com/">cider</a> pages on jottit.com</p>
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		<title>The Cider House at Quatt</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 07:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>uk cider</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Cider House at Quatt Originally uploaded by Andyrob Thanks to User:Tygon4 who uploaded the original large size photo of this special cider house to the ukcider wiki last night. There were some problems with the image page which I &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/wiki/the-cider-house-at-quatt.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>Thanks to User:Tygon4 who uploaded the original large size photo of this special cider house to the <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki">ukcider wiki</a> last night. There were some problems with the image page which I haven&#8217;t got to the bottom of yet, but it was still possible to view the picture so I&#8217;ve uploaded a smaller version and also added it to the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/cider/pool/">Flickr ukcider</a> pool. </p>
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		<title>Cider farms in France</title>
		<link>http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/wiki/cider-farms-in-france.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to Phil Andrews, the information about French cider producers has been extended on the ukcider wiki. We now have over 350 cider farm addresses listed, many with links to their own websites and all of the French &#8216;departements&#8217; named &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/wiki/cider-farms-in-france.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to Phil Andrews, the information about <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/French_Cider_Producers">French cider producers</a> has been extended on the ukcider wiki. We now have over 350 cider farm addresses listed, many with links to their own websites and all of the French &#8216;departements&#8217; named which makes it a bit easier to see where they are. </p>
<p>The interesting this is that as well as the well know cider producing regions of Normandy and Britanny, there&#8217;s also a fair amount of small scale production going on in other areas, far away. The Champagne and Burgundy districts in particular.</p>
<p>To get an idea of where the various French Departements actually are, relatively, I found the following map helpful:<br />
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		<title>Sign the petition to defend small cider makers</title>
		<link>http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/campaign/sign-the-petition-to-defend-small-cider-makers.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>uk cider</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following is a link to the 10 Downing Street petitions site:  &#8221;We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to oppose the abolition of the small scale cider producer exemption.&#8221; More details from petition creator Ever since duty was introduced &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/campaign/sign-the-petition-to-defend-small-cider-makers.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is a link to the 10 Downing Street petitions site:</p>
<p><a href="http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/CiderExemption/"> &#8221;We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to oppose the abolition of the small scale cider producer exemption.&#8221;</a></p>
<h2><span dir="ltr">More details from petition creator</span></h2>
<p>Ever since duty was introduced on cider and Perry in the 70s there has been a small scale cider exemption in place.</p>
<p>This allows small scale producers to escape duty if they produce less than 70 hectolitres in a year.</p>
<p>This exemption was put in place to protect the rural producers for whom small scale cider/Perry production was part of their rural culture.</p>
<p>Currently it acts as an incentive for small scale producers to be given the opportunity to perfect their &#8216;wares&#8217; without an onerous tax burden.</p>
<p>The EU Commission are setting up a working group to address special excise duty conditions relating to small scale industries this is likely to result in the removal of the exemption</p>
<p>I petition the prime minister to instruct his ministers to resist this to ensure the diverse small cider producers in this country can continue to produce cider.</p>
<p>If the exemption is removed many small cider producers will cease production and a vital part of Great Britain’s heritage will be lost forever.</p>
<p><a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_Page">Main Page on ukcider.co.uk/wiki updated </a></p>
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		<title>900 UK cider pubs</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>uk cider</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two pubs in Liverpool were added recently to the cider wiki pub guide , bringing the the total listed up to 900 for the first time. How accurate is the count? Pretty accurate I&#8217;d say. There will be some discrepancies &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/wiki/900-uk-cider-pubs.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two pubs in <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Cider_Pub_Guide_to_Lancashire_and_Greater_Manchester&amp;curid=995&amp;diff=12787&amp;oldid=12785&amp;rcid=5638#Liverpool">Liverpool</a> were added recently to the <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_Pub_Guide">cider wiki pub guide </a>, bringing the the total listed up to 900 for the first time.</p>
<p><strong>How accurate is the count? </strong></p>
<p>Pretty accurate I&#8217;d say. There will be some discrepancies around the counties, like whether or not offlicences and shops are listed, or those pubs which have been revisited and found no longer to stock real cider (delisted)  but with a few people keeping an eye on recent changes and doing the occasion partial recount, I&#8217;d guess the figure is accurate within + or &#8211;  25</p>
<p><strong>What&#8217;s the growth rate?</strong></p>
<p>The 800 mark was reached on <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Pub_Count&amp;oldid=11744">December 24th</a> last year so that&#8217;s a net increase of 12.5% in under 6 months. Although there no doubt remain areas of the country with some good cider pubs yet to be documented, it&#8217;s obviously a finite number and the growth rate is naturally slowing down. I would nevertheless expect the magic number of 1,000 to be reached sometime during 2008.</p>
<p><strong>What are the trends in cider outlets? </strong></p>
<p>To a large extent the state of the wiki pub guide is a reflection of the activity of the community of contributors without which it would eventually become outdated and irrelevent, so it&#8217;s a healthy sign that pubs which have been closed down or changed hands with the new owners having no commitment to real cider are being delisted by disappointed visitors There is also a trend for publicans who have taken steps to obtain cider or put on a cider festival making their own edits to add their premises  onto the wiki. A worrying trend is that of some Wetherspoons managers to cease bothering with the Westons bag-in-boxes or Sheppey&#8217;s bottles. This leaves the choice in such outlets limited to Westons  inferior bottled products, the ubiquitous magners and swedish alcopop flavoured &#8216;cider&#8217;, a far cry from the range originally introduced in the summer of 2006.</p>
<p>On a small scale, cider-by-rosie has shown the potential for local craft cider outlets, <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/RG_2007_June">selling well</a>  where it has been introduced in Dorset. In trems of demand, there&#8217;s no practical reason why hundreds of similar operations could not be supplying diverse and enjoyable real juice local cider to thousands of pubs up and down the country.<br />
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		<title>Guardian Unlimited likes ciderstore</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>uk cider</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hilary Osborne picked up my comment left on a previous article in the Guardian Food blog and appreciated ciderstore enough to write another article about great cider &#8211; delivered: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/food/2007/06/from_core_to_door Ciderstore.com delivered in two days. Fantastic news &#8211; after talking &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/wiki/guardian-unlimited-likes-ciderstore.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Hilary Osborne  picked up my comment left on a previous article in the Guardian Food blog and appreciated ciderstore enough to write another article about great cider &#8211; delivered:</p>
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<p><span class="floatright"> <small>Ciderstore.com delivered in two days.</small></span></p>
<p>Fantastic news &#8211; after <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/food/2007/06/cider_house_rules.html#more">talking about great cider</a> that you have to travel to, I&#8217;ve found a website that will bring it to you. For this I have to thank the people at <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Main_Page">ukcider.co.uk/wiki</a> who posted on my last piece and whose list of online suppliers includes <a href="http://www.ciderstore.com/">Ciderstore.com</a>.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Get the Cider Pub Guide on your iPod</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2007 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Fairhust came up with a way to get the Cider Pub Guide extracted from off the ukcider wiki, and into a format which can be read into an iPod. Now I thought iPods were for just for listening to &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/blog/wiki/get-the-cider-pub-guide-on-your-ipod.html">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.systemed.net/blog/">Richard Fairhust</a> came up with a way to get the Cider Pub Guide extracted from off the ukcider wiki, and into a format which can be <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_Pub_Guide_on_iPod">read  into an iPod</a>. Now I thought iPods were for just for listening to music, but fundamentally it&#8217;s just a portable data storage device and if it has a screen then you can read, scroll and navigate your way around any textual documents.</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;ve compiled an iPod version of the wiki Cider Pub Guide. This means you can have the full 880-pub listing in a handy format to take around with you.</p>
<p>The guide is stored as &#8216;Notes&#8217; pages on the iPod, organised by county (just like on the website) for easy access.</p>
<p>Details and download here:<br />
<a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/Cider_Pub_Guide_on_iPod" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" target="_blank">http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki<wbr></wbr>/index.php/Cider_Pub_Guide_on<wbr></wbr>_iPod</a></p>
<p>Richard Fairhurst</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a great service Richard, because when you&#8217;re out and about it isn&#8217;t always convenient to be forsightful enough to have printed off the right pages for whichever area you might end up visiting. I suppose a final development would be to have it automatically synched onto your portable device, whether it&#8217;s an mp3 player, phone or PDA and then be able to report any updates from the remote location back onto the website on the fly, but the iPod is a neat solution because you don&#8217;t have to pay any call charges to look it up.<br />
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