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		<title>Reality dawns!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The big 6000 litre tank is nearly in position behind the ciderhouse. Chris and Ness who live a few doors away have a fencing business. They kindly offered to take the tank from the garden and transport it to the &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/reality-dawns/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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The big 6000 litre tank is nearly in position behind the ciderhouse.<br />
Chris and Ness who live a few doors away have a fencing business. They<br />
kindly offered to take the tank from the garden and transport it to<br />
the back of our place using their large tractor. It was quite an<br />
amusing little scene, but one that needed a lot of skill. The first<br />
part of the journey was along the village road to reach the gate to<br />
the field behind our house. The tank was carried on the tractor&#8217;s<br />
front loader whose forks had been fitted with special extension tubes.<br />
The tank, being 2 m wide by 2.3 m high, completely masked any view of<br />
the road ahead, which meant that Chris was driving the tractor blind.<br />
Ness walked on one side of the tractor and I walked on the other, each<br />
of us making reassuring, though possibly confusing, hand signals to<br />
Chris as the big black beasty nosed its way along the road. Luckily<br />
there was no other traffic at the time. Crossing the field was much<br />
less demanding but another display of skill was needed on reaching the<br />
fence. We have a 6 ft wooden panel fence along the back. Chris found<br />
that the tractor could not lift the tank quite high enough to clear<br />
it. What happened next was a treat to behold! He slid the tank off the<br />
forks on to the grass. It was now time for Ness to demonstrate her<br />
tractor driving skills. Chris sat on one of the forks and she lifted<br />
him up with it and drove the tractor forward until the fork was<br />
alongside but just above the tank. Chris then climbed along the fork<br />
and lashed the lifting eye on the top of the tank to the end of the<br />
fork. He climbed down and Ness then lifted the tank off the ground as<br />
high as it would go. It still did not clear the fence. I began to<br />
think it was a lost cause but Chris climbed up on the tractor and<br />
tilted the forks, effectively lifting the tank just a little higher.<br />
On the the next attempt the tank just cleared the fence and was then<br />
easily lowered to the ground on the other side</p>
<p>Over the last two weeks a concrete base has been made for the tank to<br />
sit on. The tank will have a built in advantage, due to the ground<br />
behind the cider house being about 3 ft above the floor level inside<br />
the tank room. This height difference plus the the height of the<br />
concrete base for the big new tank means that it will be possible to<br />
gravity feed from it to the 6 IBC tanks in the tank room, after the<br />
first stage of fermentation and blending.</p>
<p>On seeing the big tank nearly in its place behind the ciderhouse I&#8217;ve<br />
had several onslaughts of my favourite daydream &#8211; to jump the 7000<br />
barrier and grow the business.  Several times now I&#8217;ve paced out the<br />
area available, and could easily imagine another 4 or even 5 of the<br />
6000 litre monsters sitting there. Now that would look a proper job,<br />
an impressive sight indeed, like a mini Westons! Well I can tell you<br />
emphatically, that dream faded away for ever this week. Circumstances<br />
have forced me to work at the rate that would be required by an annual<br />
output of 18,000 litres. It has been very tiring and time consuming.<br />
I&#8217;ve shipped 38  x  20 litre boxes over the last week, delivering by<br />
day and often packaging well into the night. I could never keep that<br />
up on my own, especially not with all the book keeping needed by the<br />
liability for excise duty.</p>
<p>Reality has dawned!  But how did this happen? Warm weather created a<br />
surge in demand from the pubs. I did some extra marketing and gained<br />
four more outlets. Silly really, but I can&#8217;t help myself doing it.<br />
Then in parallel with this there have been several good orders for<br />
festivals. It seems to have all come at once, but it has had the good<br />
effect of bringing me down to earth. No more daydreams, I will stick<br />
to my 7000 litres, it is a job enough for an old un !</p>
<p>There is only 2000 litres of draught left for this year, so I could<br />
even have a rest period before pressing starts, or at least find some<br />
to make improvements to the equipment.</p>
<p>It was good here today! This morning I acted as collection point for<br />
ciders destined for the Gillingham ( Dorset) Football Club Cider<br />
Festival, to be held on 27 th June ( see wiki ). Last week Barry left<br />
3 of his B-in-Bs for it here. Today I had the pleasure of meeting<br />
Martin Inwood, a craft cidermaker from Bere Regis who had also brought his cider<br />
for the festival. Patrick, the Festival organiser, had arranged to<br />
collect these ciders, together with my own, and was already here when<br />
Martin arrived. It was a sunny morning so it was only natural to have<br />
a little cider tasting in the garden! Martin had anticipated this I<br />
think, as he arrived, bottle in hand. Our first toast to fine weather<br />
was with his latest &#8216;Lulworth Skipper&#8217;, a fine clear golden cider that<br />
had been matured in an oak wine barrel. It was excellent, crisp and<br />
pleasantly oaked. It confirmed that I do like oaked cider after all,<br />
if like Martin&#8217;s, the oak is fairly subtle. I can now put the early<br />
bad experience with whisky barrels behind me and move on. I&#8217;m getting<br />
to like wine barrel cider!  Just as the Monkton Wyld &#8216;Wider&#8217; delighted<br />
me at Powerstock, Hecks Port Wine has become a firm personal favourite.</p>
<p>I must get one or two ex wine barrels from somewhere before the<br />
autumn. Anybody know where?</p>
<p>Rose</p>

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		<title>My website</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Two and a half years ago I began to think about having a website. I mentioned this to Andy Roberts. I told him that I was not in a particular hurry but that I felt I needed to make a &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/my-website/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two and a half years ago I began to think about having a website. I<br />
mentioned this to Andy Roberts. I told him that I was not in a<br />
particular hurry but that I felt I needed to make a move in that<br />
direction and asked for his advice. He advised me that it would be a<br />
good idea to at least lay claim to the ciderbyrosie domain name and<br />
then think about the website later on. I thought this was sensible and<br />
so I asked Andy if he would kindly arrange it for me. Me being me, I<br />
then procrastinated for ever and a day about getting my own website.<br />
After all, what need had I of a website, with absolutely no intention<br />
of ever selling cider on the Web? However I now had a web address that<br />
led to nothing at all so, I asked Andy if the address could link<br />
automatically to my <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/The_Cidermaking_Year_by_Rose_Grant">Cidermaking Year</a> on UKcider. He agreed and this<br />
interim measure this has been useful. As well as the UKcider<br />
connection, the wiki pages were found and read by a number of people<br />
who happened on them after seeing the web address on my cider boxes in<br />
pubs. A few even became fans, telling me that they were keeping up<br />
with the latest episodes! A lady in our village likened me to Eddie<br />
Grundy on the Archers; a somewhat dubious compliment!</p>
<p>I had come to the conclusion after the first year or so, that I really<br />
ought to have my own site. I&#8217;d noticed that other craft cider makers<br />
had already taken this step and I found some of their sites very<br />
appealing. The problem was that I had no idea how to go about it.<br />
Following our real cider pub sticker campaign, Jez, who having clearly<br />
demonstrated his design expertise in providing us with no less than<br />
three versions of the sticker to choose from, mentioned that he could<br />
even be persuaded to design websites if asked nicely! I thought that<br />
this was very civil of him but did not like to ask, and so was<br />
delighted when some months later he suggested it to me directly. I&#8217;ve<br />
gradually been getting bits and pieces together for it and still have<br />
some writing yet to do. In the meantime Jez has started the technical<br />
bit and produced a temporary home page that is activated by www.ciderbyrosie.com<br />
  or www.ciderbyrosie.co.uk . I&#8217;m looking forward to having a site of<br />
my own. Being already familiar with Jez&#8217;s smart and purposeful Cider<br />
Workshop site, I know that I am certain to be pleased with my own,<br />
when it is up and running.</p>
<p>I intend to keep updating The Cidermaking Year. During the<br />
construction of my own site, this still remains available via the<br />
UKcider wiki. The &#8216;Year&#8217; is now 6 years old but I can&#8217;t just cast it<br />
off like an old jacket. Entry by entry it builds the picture of how my<br />
little cider business came into being, so I want to have a link to it<br />
from the new website.</p>
<p>Rose</p>
<p>  PS. Thanks to Andy&#8217;s recommendation, <a href="http://ukcider.co.uk/wiki/index.php/The_Cidermaking_Year_by_Rose_Grant">Cider by Rosie</a> is now going<br />
down well with the holiday visitors at the Castle Inn in Lulworth<br />
Cove. Alex the landlord emailed to say that he had seen the Real Cider<br />
sticker at the Square &amp; Compass and asked if he could have one or two<br />
of them for his pub. I will be happy to oblige him tomorrow on my<br />
delivery round.  Fortunately I still have a dozen or so of the batch<br />
that Dick printed for us.</p>
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		<title>A question of yeast</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is often discussion amongst cider makers as to whether it is best to use a wine yeast for fermentation, or just to let the natural or &#8216;wild&#8217; yeasts of the apples themselves do the job. I like my cider &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/a-question-of-yeast/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is often discussion amongst cider makers as to whether it is<br />
best to use a wine yeast for fermentation, or just to let the natural<br />
or &#8216;wild&#8217; yeasts of the apples themselves do the job. I like my cider<br />
to be entirely a product of the apple and for me this means that it is<br />
essential to use apple yeast.</p>
<p>I came to this conclusion some years ago on reading of the work<br />
carried out in England by Lloyd in 1894. He studied the effect of<br />
inoculating  apple juice with various yeasts, both from wine and from<br />
cider apples such as Kingston Black. He found that the ciders so<br />
produced could be distinguished from each other by their aroma and<br />
bouquet. The juice fermented by the wine yeast had acquired a vinous<br />
character, whereas those fermented with the Kingston Black yeast<br />
produced a series of ciders corresponding in character to the true<br />
Kingston Black product.</p>
<p>In my own way I have proved to myself that there is something in this<br />
theory. In August each year I collect the early apples from my<br />
orchard. These are mostly eaters at this time of the year, the<br />
majority of them being Discovery and Tom Putt. It is of course too<br />
early for Kingston Black. I select only those that are perfectly ripe<br />
and wholesome, wash them thoroughly and then make a few gallons of<br />
their juice. It is gorgeous to drink, but I make myself put a couple<br />
of demijohns of it aside to turn into cider. I add one Campden tablet<br />
per gallon as a precautionary measure and then just leave the jars to<br />
ferment. About 4 weeks later, I begin the pressing season proper with<br />
the early season cider apples. By this time, the demijohn ciders are<br />
well advanced. Their yeasts have multiplied, they are fizzing well and<br />
the airlocks are merrily plopping. I pour them into the juice of my<br />
first main pressing. They then become the starter for the main blend<br />
and their characteristics are thus permeated through out all the cider<br />
that is made throughout the season.</p>
<p>It is a big leap of faith, but it works well for me. Over the last 4<br />
years that I&#8217;ve been doing this, I&#8217;ve found that my cider is<br />
remarkably similar to that of previous years. It has the same<br />
marmalade colour, and virtually the same taste, aroma and body. This<br />
happens in spite of the fact that the blend of varieties and the<br />
weather throughout the ripening season, inevitably changes from year<br />
to year. Other cider makers tell me that this phenomenon is due to &#8216;in<br />
house yeasts&#8217; on my equipment and within the ciderhouse itself.</p>
<p>I prefer to believe that those late summer yeasts from my orchard have<br />
a lot to do with it!</p>
<p>Rose</p>
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		<title>Steam Cleaning Oak barrels</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#62; &#62; BucklandSwifty wrote: &#62;&#62; I have two 40 gallon oak ex whiskey barrels, one of which was used to &#62;&#62; mature last years cider in. I am pondering the best way of cleaning &#62;&#62; it. There is only the &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/steam-cleaning-oak-barrels/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;<br />
&gt;  BucklandSwifty wrote:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; I have two 40 gallon oak ex whiskey barrels, one of which was used to<br />
&gt;&gt; mature last years cider in.  I am pondering the best way of cleaning<br />
&gt;&gt; it.  There is only the usual bung hole in the top, I had thought of<br />
&gt;&gt; half to two thirds filling with water/sterilising solution and<br />
&gt;&gt; introducing an airline to get it &#8220;boiling&#8221; around.  Having done that,<br />
&gt;&gt; pump out the water.  My next cunning plan was to steam the barrel,<br />
&gt;&gt; here is my problem, what to use to supply the steam?  Any ideas?  The<br />
&gt;&gt; major drawback with the 40 gallon oak barrel is handling to my mind!<br />
&gt;&gt; Any advice gratefully received.<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt; Chris<br />
&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Chris,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; I used to use these ex whisky barrels. They were bought from<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; distilleries in Scotland at £2 each and brought down here by the<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; HGV load by a smart guy in Somerset, who sold them for £25 each.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Mostly they were bought from him by gardeners and sawn in half to<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; make big planting tubs. I insisted that the ones I bought still<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; had their bungs intact and were thus still whiskey sterile ( one<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; still had a litre of whiskey in it, that I discarded!). They made<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; good cider in their first year, but I took against the strong<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; whiskey overtones. I&#8217;m not fond of whiskey, but I had imagined<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; that the lingering effect would have been much more subtle than<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; proved to be the case.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; However I decided to give the barrels another go the following<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; year hoping that the whiskey flavour would be reduced to an<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; acceptable level. I was then faced with the same problem as you<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; are now, how to clean the barrels. I&#8217;d read the books that mention<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; thrashing chains around in the barrels and steaming them out etc<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; and decided that I just could not be doing with all that palaver.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; I just hosed out the barrels with tap water then dangled a Vigo<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; sulphur candle on a piece of wire through the bung hole of each<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; and put the bungs in to contain the sulphur dioxide smoke. Half an<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; hour later I quickly removed the wires and rebunged the barrels.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Perfectly good cider was made in all of them the following year,<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; though I still did not like the whiskey flavour, albeit much<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; reduced.<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; The barrels have now been relegated to garden planters and two<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; have been printed up to advertise my cider business at the<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; entrance to our property. These are now leading a very useful life<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; as they have stimulated a fair bit of business!<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt; Rose.</p>
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		<title>High excitement and a bit of bother</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 01:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Towards the end of last November I spent a sunny day on my knees in Venetia&#8217;s orchard picking up the last fallers from amongst her various cider apple trees. I had previously collected the Yarlingtons, but now the Dabinetts had &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/high-excitement-and-a-bit-of-bother/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Towards the end of last November I spent a sunny day on my knees in<br />
Venetia&#8217;s orchard picking up the last fallers from amongst her various<br />
cider apple trees. I had previously collected the Yarlingtons, but now<br />
the Dabinetts had decided that their time had also come. The grass was<br />
full of them, beautiful, big and rosy. Next along the row, another big<br />
carpet from the Brown Thorns, brightly orange, also beckoned. I picked<br />
solidly all day, ending up with over half a ton bagged up in the back<br />
of the Landrover. My back ached terribly but I felt satisfied to have<br />
picked enough that day for one complete pressing on St. Em. There must<br />
have been even more than I thought, because next day&#8217;s pressing<br />
produced 400 litres of juice. Having laboured so hard and seen the<br />
beauty of the apples close at hand, as compared with my usual casual<br />
regard of machine harvested apples, I felt loathe to add the juice to<br />
the main blend. Rather than that, I decided to keeve it and make it as<br />
a special. Unfortunately the keeving did not work, so in January with<br />
this separate 400 litres of now fully dry cider, I found myself<br />
wondering what to do with it. The sensible thing was to put in with<br />
the main blend. This I did for the most part, but I could not bear to<br />
lose all of this rather special pressing, so I kept 120 litres of it<br />
in a blue tub, to bottle for home consumption. I happened to give this<br />
cider a try, just as I was about to put some cider into demijohns for<br />
the Bath and West. I liked it so much that I decided to send it to the<br />
Show instead of the main blend. What was to happen next has become one<br />
of the most memorable episodes of my life.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still dazed and amazed at my unbelievable good fortune with this<br />
cider at last week&#8217;s Royal Bath and West Show. To win the cup for the<br />
champion Farmhouse Cider was like a dream in itself. When that same<br />
cider was then chosen as the Supreme Champion of the Show, I scarcely<br />
was able to take it in. It seemed just incredible! Having had a<br />
completely trophyless lifetime, (I was totally useless at all sports<br />
in my schooldays), to unexpectedly win two silver pots, big ones at<br />
that, was certainly breaking new ground. I was thrilled to bits! For<br />
me this was not only the high point of this cidermaking year but of<br />
all my cidermaking years and doubtless of those yet to come. A joyful,<br />
once in a lifetime experience, thanks to the golden juice from a tiny,<br />
18 tree, Dorset orchard!</p>
<p>I felt honoured to be the first cider maker to bring these two trophys<br />
to Dorset. On coming back here with them last Saturday, I had the<br />
curious thought that bringing the Worshipful Fruiterers Supreme Cider<br />
Cup out of Somerset, seemed rather like stealing the Stone of Scone. I<br />
note however that Alex Hill wrested it across the boundary into Devon,<br />
after winning with his Bollhayes Cider in 2006.  But in all other<br />
years it has remained solidly in its home county, being won by<br />
Somerset producers, large, medium and small (notably our Michael Cobb<br />
in 2004).</p>
<p>I might have known that such braggart thoughts could elicit an ancient<br />
Somerset curse, perhaps muttered by some old farmer on the Levels,<br />
into his mug of scrumpy. And so it was that on Sunday morning I found<br />
water was pouring out from under the ciderhouse door and there was an<br />
unpleasant hissing sound coming from within. A pipe had burst during<br />
the night, spraying water upwards and drenching everything. The<br />
electrics had tripped due to water in the light fittings. The steel<br />
vats had been topped up with water on top of their sealed lids.<br />
Fortunately this was unable to penetrate into the cider held below the<br />
seals. Most things were none the worse for a soaking but there was one<br />
terrible exception. A few days earlier I had worked hard bottling,<br />
corking, wiring and labelling, 150 bottles of keeved Kingston Black.<br />
I&#8217;d then packed them into cardboard boxes and stacked them below the<br />
table for temporary storage. This whole stack of boxes had now become<br />
a soggy mess. It took most of Sunday to get the water out, from in and<br />
under furnishings and equipment. Today I set to work rescuing the<br />
bottles of Kingston from their squelchy cartons. I found that a large<br />
number of the bottle labels had also been ruined. There is a lot of<br />
work that now has to be done again.</p>
<p>It was a chore sorting out this little disaster area today, but I was<br />
buoyed up with a new resolve. When the Kingston has been reworked I<br />
intend to bottle the winning cider with a little sugar into heavy<br />
weight bottles. This should then preserve it as a sparkler that can be<br />
enjoyed as a memento of last week&#8217;s success, for a good few years to<br />
come. I wont put any boxes of it under the table though, just in case.</p>
<p>Rose</p>
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		<title>Cider Festivals</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 06:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my Powerstock report I noted, what I have come to see, as an increasing trend for dedicated cider festivals. Powerstock is of course a prime example. I have always thought that cider as a beverage has more than enough &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/cider-festivals/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my Powerstock report I noted, what I have come to see, as an<br />
increasing trend for dedicated cider festivals. Powerstock is of<br />
course a prime example. I have always thought that cider as a beverage<br />
has more than enough variations of flavour and form to excite the<br />
interest of the general public in &#8216;cider only festivals&#8217;. Since<br />
Powerstock I&#8217;ve been excited to note two further examples of the<br />
trend. The Drax Arms at Spetisbury near here, is holding a cider<br />
festival on the week end 23/24 th May and has put posters out that<br />
amusingly say &#8216; Bring your own mug!&#8217;  A few days ago I was visited by<br />
the landlord of The Cricketers in Southampton. He was out and about<br />
with a cider drinking friend collecting cider from local craft makers<br />
for his own cider festival. As he put my B-in-Bs into the back of his<br />
Landrover, I was interested to see a good collection of boxes already<br />
stowed, notably from Mr Whitehead and our good friend Barry in the New<br />
Forest! ( everybody seems to be using B-in-Bs for cider now. I<br />
remember when people thought that I was mad to use them with a live<br />
cider.)</p>
<p>It may be that landlords in this difficult time for pubs, are perhaps<br />
looking for innovative ways to stimulate business, other than the<br />
standard beer festival, but from my perspective I see the trend<br />
developing as a result of the increasing  interest and demand for real<br />
cider.  I see it in the increasing demand for boxes of cider for<br />
private functions, especially weddings. Here no doubt the economic<br />
aspect of units of alcohol versus cost holds sway, but it is not that<br />
alone. It is the quality and the flavour that they want for their<br />
special occasion. Increasingly I find that people are aware of the<br />
difference when they sample the real thing. In conversations with<br />
several landlords, I&#8217;ve been pleased to hear that they are becoming<br />
more aware it too. Yesterday, on my delivery round, I&#8217;d dropped my<br />
usual full juice mantra into conversation with one of the landlords. &#8221;<br />
Oh, I can tell the difference, Rose&#8221;, he said. &#8221; When I turn the tap<br />
on for a pint of yours, I can really smell the apples&#8221;. He is not a<br />
cider drinker, but I&#8217;m working on it. The pleasure of that little<br />
aside stayed with me all day.</p>
<p>May I also add as a footnote re cider festivals, there is our usual<br />
little &#8216;cider only&#8217; festival here tomorrow. We will crown the May<br />
Queen in my orchard followed by a BBQ and cider tasting, from 3 pm. If<br />
you are a local cider maker and would like to bring a small quantity<br />
to donate to the cider table you will be especially welcome.</p>
<p>Rose.</p>
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		<title>[ukcider] Powerstock Cider Festival</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Our annual &#8216;not to be missed&#8217; event in Dorset was the best yet, in my opinion. The sun was shining and I felt on top of the world, driving once again over glorious Eggardon hill, then down and down the &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/ukcider-powerstock-cider-festival/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our annual &#8216;not to be missed&#8217; event in Dorset was the best yet, in my<br />
opinion.</p>
<p>The sun was shining and I felt on top of the world, driving once again<br />
over glorious Eggardon hill, then down and down the narrow rutted<br />
little road to Powerstock far below. It was important to get there a<br />
little early so as to get the cider set up before the event started.<br />
On entering the school playground I was warmly greeted by Nick Poole,<br />
who organises the event, and then by my dear Ukcider friends Ny and<br />
Sharon, after their long journey from Leominster. Nick introduced me<br />
to Michel, a cider maker from France and I was even more warmly<br />
welcomed, in the traditional French double cheek manner!  I marvelled<br />
that the attraction of Powerstock has now even extended across the<br />
Channel. Ny and Sharon&#8217;s Cyder Circle friends, Tom, Sandy and Dave had<br />
also come with their ciders. The word must be getting around as this<br />
year there were craft producers from Yorkshire, Oxfordshire and<br />
Herefordshire as well as from our neighbouring counties. There was a<br />
friend of Roy&#8217;s from Berkshire and a number of visitors who had somehow<br />
discovered the event and come all the way from London.</p>
<p>The various cider barrels, kegs and boxes were arranged on tables<br />
close to the walls inside the hall to allow the main area between them<br />
to become the drinking and chatting area. This soon gets full of<br />
people, so I like to use the early part of the evening to get around<br />
and meet some of the other makers and have a taster here and there. I<br />
spoke to several who were donating cider for the first time, including<br />
Matt and Alan who had come from my own area. I&#8217;m beginning to have<br />
local competition! The interest in real cider is certainly growing in<br />
Dorset and it was good to see so many different ciders on offer. There<br />
were many cider makers that have been going there every year from the<br />
beginning, but that I&#8217;ve still yet to meet. There is never quite<br />
enough time before things start to get busy. However this year I was<br />
delighted to be able to meet Winston and Diane and the other nice<br />
couple who run Monkton Wyld Cider at Charmouth. They had 3 very<br />
interesting little oak barrels of cider, each very different in<br />
flavour. The most noteworthy of these had been made in a Rioja barrel.<br />
Winston joked that it was called &#8216;Wider&#8217; and I was surprised to find<br />
that I enjoyed the unusual taste, but then I do like Rioja. I met<br />
James Crowden, Liz Copas, Rupert Best and Penny Whatmore (from the<br />
Cider museum),<br />
also enjoying a walk around and tasting.</p>
<p>People had started pouring into the hall so I went back to join Ny and<br />
Sharon, to help with dispensing the ciders. My cider shared the same<br />
table as theirs and that of their friends from Oxfordshire. As usual<br />
it was so nice to see their little dog &#8216;Rosie&#8217;, tucked up, as good as<br />
gold, in her bed under the table. Very few people even realised that<br />
she was there. She is a real sweetie, not bothered in the slightest by<br />
the ever increasing forest of people&#8217;s legs and the rising noise<br />
level. Soon the hall was packed, the cider pouring out rate increased<br />
tremendously and the little group of folk musicians started their<br />
playing with obvious pleasure. One of them, a small lady in a green<br />
dress, played the fiddle with a furious delight. She was amazing, the<br />
wailing notes from her fiddle<br />
seemed to cut into your very soul. A great feeling of sheer happiness<br />
seemed to envelop everyone there. It was not long before we were all<br />
singing along to the tunes. &#8216;Drink thee zider&#8217; was of course the best<br />
sung of all!</p>
<p>I caught a worried look on Nick&#8217;s face as he looked out of the hall<br />
into the playground. I went over to him and remarked what a great<br />
success his evening had become. &#8220;Look out there&#8221;, he said. &#8220;I&#8217;ve<br />
created a monster!&#8221; In the playground a four or five person wide,<br />
snake like queue of people could be seen, snaking all the way to the<br />
hall from the village road. Nick decided that he would have to go and<br />
lock the gates before the hall became completely overwhelmed. I&#8217;m not<br />
sure if he actually managed to do this, but things never became a real<br />
problem.  In the hall a mass of people seemed to flow in continuously<br />
from the main door, with an never ending sea of arms reaching out for<br />
their plastic tumblers to be filled. They were mostly young adults but<br />
were all well behaved, many of them taking their cider out through the<br />
other door to enjoy in the playground. They looked so pleased to be<br />
there and were obviously enjoying themselves. I never saw any trouble<br />
at all and was pleased that Nick&#8217;s success had not become a binge<br />
drinking problem. Perhaps it was his wise choice of small glasses and<br />
the fact that the sheer number of people soon exhausted all the<br />
available cider, but I&#8217;d prefer to think that cider drinkers are just<br />
nice people. Whatever the reason, the visitors numbered 800, compared<br />
with 700 last year. A lot to squeeze in a small hall in a tiny<br />
village, itself squeezed within a narrow valley. I can&#8217;t begin to<br />
imagine where they all parked!</p>
<p>The interesting thing, as Ny remarked to me, was the age range of<br />
those who attended. Most were 20 to 30. Real cider has become very<br />
popular with the younger generation. There weren&#8217;t very many grey<br />
heads like me to be seen! Another interesting thing that I have<br />
noticed this year, is the rising popularity of Cider Festivals<br />
(meaning cider only!). Three sports clubs have asked if I can supply<br />
theirs and our Sports club in the next village have asked me if I<br />
could help to start one as a regular summer event. I also supply<br />
several events where cider is the only drink provided.</p>
<p>I have an increasing conviction that there is a new awareness of<br />
Real cider. It is gaining the presence that we have all hoped for and<br />
people do know the difference between it and the supermarket stuff.<br />
What is more I&#8217;m sure that the existence of the UKcider website for<br />
the last ten years has had much to do with it. We must overcome our<br />
difficulties and keep up the good work!</p>
<p>Rose.</p>
<p>BTW. For those who are wondering what has become of Ny. He IS still<br />
with us, but has an intractable spam filter problem. His  ISP does not<br />
seem to want him to see any UKcider postings at the moment. (A good<br />
thing, maybe! )</p>
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		<title>The big tank</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year I decided to take my two ex winery aluminium &#8216;Sputnik&#8217; tanks to the scrapyard. They were taking up too much room in the ciderhouse. I was also not convinced that their internal enamel coating would continue to survive &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/the-big-tank/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year I decided to take my two ex winery aluminium &#8216;Sputnik&#8217; tanks<br />
to the scrapyard. They were taking up too much room in the ciderhouse.<br />
I was also not convinced that their internal enamel coating would<br />
continue to survive being immersed in cider for a great deal longer.<br />
Scrap metal prices were good and I was able to more than cover their<br />
original cost of £50 on Ebay. Having less tankage has however made<br />
blending even more difficult than usual, since I&#8217;d lost two tanks that<br />
I could move the cider to, during the mixing process. I do like my<br />
draught to be truly composed of the complete season&#8217;s apples. It has<br />
become a &#8216;lodestar thing&#8217; for me that Cider by Rosie fully represents<br />
the season from mid September to Christmas and that its flavour<br />
remains the same throughout the drinking season.</p>
<p>This year it was impossible to fully blend until the first 1000 litre<br />
IBC had been emptied, due to the lack of tank space. The cider in this<br />
tank was acceptable but rather on the sharp side. Although in itself a<br />
blend of perhaps 4 varieties, they were early season apples which tend<br />
to be acidic. It sold well enough but I was not really happy with it.<br />
When it had gone I was able to blend the remaining 5 IBCs ( I make<br />
6000 litres of traditional draught). It was a moment of truth when I<br />
tasted the result, being very pleasing and having the same rich, soft<br />
dry, sort of flavour as in previous years. My full season ideal seemed<br />
to be vindicated once and for all. The romantic notion that Nature<br />
provides its own balance came to me, not for the first time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve given this blending problem a lot of thought in recent years.<br />
I&#8217;ve mentioned it here which stimulated clever proposals involving<br />
pumping this way and that between the tanks to ensure that each<br />
contained the identical blend. One posting stood out in my mind. It<br />
was about Customs &amp; Excise inspections rather than blending. Tom<br />
Oliver remarked that he had difficulty explaining to the inspector<br />
that his 6000 litre blending tank was not used for the storage of<br />
cider! This is the solution for me too, I thought. Never mind the<br />
inspections. I will cross that bridge as and when needed. I want a<br />
6000 litre tank! I can do the initial fermentation of the whole<br />
season&#8217;s cider in it, whereupon all will be fully blended. Plentiful<br />
co2 will fill the headspace, safeguarding the juice as the season&#8217;s<br />
pressings progressively fill the tank. Then just after Christmas I<br />
will transfer the still fermenting cider to the 6 IBCs in the tank<br />
room, thus performing a racking in the process. Well that is the theory.</p>
<p>Today it became a reality. A massive plastic cylindrical water tank<br />
now stands in our garden. I can&#8217;t believe how big a 2 metre diameter<br />
tank actually looks! My mind has been working flat out thinking how to<br />
alter its role from being a giant garden ornament, to a functional<br />
item situated out of sight behind the cider house. I had thought it<br />
would be possible to move it by rolling, but have been dismayed by its<br />
great weight and the fact that it is impossible to get any sort of<br />
grip on such a large drum. It is over 2 M in height which is also<br />
unhelpful. I can see that I will definitely be in need of help from my<br />
friends.</p>
<p>A few weeks back Barry and Albert came with a very awkward load.<br />
Somehow back at Burley they had managed to get some very heavy items<br />
inside Barry&#8217;s big white cider van. One of these was a pallet of<br />
champagne bottles. These Barry had kindly bought on my behalf along<br />
with his own consignment from France. This weighed best part of a ton<br />
as did the other item. This was a 500 litre stainless dairy tank<br />
complete with outer cooling tank and refrigeration equipment! Barry<br />
and Albert had been determined to rescue this for me from a farm in<br />
the New Forest where it was no longer required. It will be perfect for<br />
keeving, due to the possibility of temperature control. I look forward<br />
to modifying it and putting it to good use. However the immediate<br />
problem was how to get these things out of the van and into my garage.<br />
Luckily Charles, a friend in the village, came along with his tractor<br />
and was able to lift them out with his front loader.</p>
<p>I am now very much in need of Charles with his tractor again! There is<br />
a strong lifting eye moulded into the top of the tank. I&#8217;m hoping that<br />
Charles will be able to lift the tank up and over the fence behind the<br />
cider house, once I have obtained permission from the owner for access<br />
to his adjoining field.</p>
<p>This is what the tank is like except that it is black. There is a 1 in<br />
BSP stainless outlet fitted near to the base. Luckily I thought of<br />
asking for that, as the standard fitting is brass.</p>
<p>Rose.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last month I mentioned the ease with which a Europump can be dismantled for cleaning and repair. From my own experience and from what I have heard from other owners of this useful little pump, there are two components that &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/europump-repairs/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last month I mentioned the ease with which a Europump can be<br />
dismantled for cleaning and repair. From my own experience and from<br />
what I have heard from other owners of this useful little pump, there<br />
are two components that are most likely to fail after several years of<br />
use. These are the drive spring that connects the motor to the pump<br />
and the shaft seal that prevents leakage from the pump into the motor.</p>
<p>If, like me, you are in need of one of these spares, I have some good<br />
news!</p>
<p>Alex has advised me that Vigo has them in stock. They are listed as<br />
follows:</p>
<p>Item code		21009	Spring Europump drive. Price £1.91<br />
Item code		72249	Seal shaft 5 x 15 x 6m double lip R23 (Europump).<br />
Price £3.25</p>
<p>Clear step by step instructions for replacing these items are also<br />
supplied.</p>
<p>Happy pumping!<br />
Rose</p>
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		<title>Re: [ukcider] Re: Blending keeved cider</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been mulling over the pearls of wisdom from David and Gary with regard to the errors in SG measurement due to temperature variation and the phenomenom of stratification. When making dry cider these effects are of no great concern. &#8230; <a href="http://www.ukcider.co.uk/ciderbyrosie/re-ukcider-re-blending-keeved-cider-2/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been mulling over the pearls of wisdom from David and Gary with<br />
regard to the errors in SG measurement due to temperature variation<br />
and the phenomenom of stratification. When making dry cider these<br />
effects are of no great concern. Apart from the all important<br />
measurement of SG prior to fermentation, thereafter the hydrometer<br />
really only serves as an indicator to confirm that fermentation is<br />
complete. This is quite a different matter when it comes to keeved<br />
cider. The SG reading and its rate of fall, is crucial at bottling<br />
time. One needs to be able to determine that the yeast is becoming<br />
starved and that the SG is &#8216;bottoming out&#8217;. Only then can bottling be<br />
safely carried out. At SGs above 1010, one has to feel confident that<br />
there will not be the potential for more than the small amount of<br />
fermentation needed to produce a sparkle. I&#8217;m all the more conscious<br />
of this now having seen the bottle figures in Andrew&#8217;s book. The most<br />
a champagne bottle can stand is 1010, should the fermentation decide<br />
to go to fully dry.</p>
<p>At this time of the year I&#8217;m watching the SGs of the keeved ciders<br />
almost day by day, in order to establish when it will be safe to<br />
bottle. We discussed this here last year and a useful rule of thumb<br />
came to light. If I&#8217;ve remembered it incorrectly, please somebody put<br />
me right, but I believe that if a one point drop of SG takes a period<br />
of 10 days or more, it can be taken as an indication that the SG is<br />
bottoming out and that it is safe to bottle.</p>
<p>The implication is that for keeving it is important to be able to read<br />
SG to within a degree and therefore reading errors do need to be<br />
considered. I&#8217;ve looked in vain for some figures. David please<br />
enlighten me. Say for example the ambient temp is 10 C, how is the<br />
hydrometer reading affected? Regarding errors due to stratification,<br />
that is something that I never would have even thought about. Thank<br />
you Gary, it is good to be aware of it. I will have a gentle stir<br />
before measuring in future, if notable changes in temperature have<br />
occurred.</p>
<p>Continuing the experimental 50/50 blending of the keeved Porters and<br />
Yarlington, I&#8217;ve progressed from the demijohn and now have a 120 litre<br />
tub of it. Like the demijohn, this is also holding at 1012.  As the<br />
two ciders were well mixed during their blending, I needn&#8217;t worry<br />
about stratification. Since the weather has stayed the same for two<br />
weeks, around 15 C every day, there is no difference between<br />
hydrometer readings due to temperature. Another week of similar<br />
readings and perhaps I will feel confident enough to bottle!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to bottling because I&#8217;m dying to try out Barry&#8217;s<br />
corker, that he has kindly lent me.</p>
<p>Rose.</p>
<p>On 19 Mar 2009, at 11:11, Gary Awdey wrote:</p>
<p>&gt; On Tuesday, March 17, 2009, David Llewellyn wrote:</p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Apart from the accuracy problem of actually determining small<br />
&gt;&gt; differences while reading along a scale, if the<br />
&gt;&gt; temperature of the cider was much lower at the time of the first<br />
&gt;&gt; reading (ie the cold weather we had weeks ago), it might have accounted for an<br />
&gt;&gt; apparent small change in SG, unless you corrected the readings to 20 degrees<br />
&gt;&gt; C for example. The lower the temperature of the liquid, the higher the SG<br />
&gt;&gt; reading will be, so you have to correct to a standard temperature. Sorry if<br />
&gt;&gt; you have already taken this into account!!<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Another cautionary note (with more apologies if you&#8217;ve already taken<br />
&gt; this into account) is the effect of stratification.  In the past I&#8217;ve<br />
&gt; occasionally noted odd readings that go counter to what would be<br />
&gt; predicted by the temperature density effect David mentions.  When it is warmer<br />
&gt; you would expect density (and gravity readings) to be lower.  What I&#8217;ve<br />
&gt; found is that sometimes the warmer weather makes fermentation of keeved<br />
&gt; ciders more active with the result that it is de-stratified. Measurement after<br />
&gt; racking is also occasionally higher than measurement before (I generally take<br />
&gt; samples from near the top).  Heavier cider, richer in sugar, is<br />
&gt; mixed up from the bottom when fermentation is more active.  This phenomenon is<br />
&gt; mentioned in several winemaking books so evidently it is not<br />
&gt; particularly unusual.  When an accurate gravity reading of the entire batch is<br />
&gt; needed (which is admittedly not very often) I make sure the cider is<br />
&gt; adequately mixed by stirring or sparging with carbon dioxide gas (taking care<br />
&gt; not to introduce oxygen at the same time).  However I don&#8217;t attempt to<br />
&gt; destratify cider that is still sitting on top of deposits that might be<br />
&gt; disturbed.  I usually mix blended ciders thoroughly before measuring gravity.<br />
&gt; Otherwise measurement tends to be skewed toward the low side (and presumably the<br />
&gt; opposite would be true if samples were obtained from the bottom of the<br />
&gt; vessel).<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Similarly, if two keeved ciders are mixed and fermentation is very<br />
&gt; slow (as one would hope it would be) then you may start with a well mixed<br />
&gt; blend but see measured gravity drop unexpectedly quickly as stratification<br />
&gt; occurs. This would seem to be more likely as a cause of possible measurement<br />
&gt; error if you see a notable drop in gravity without seeing a corresponding<br />
&gt; amount of gas escaping at the airlock.<br />
&gt;<br />
&gt; Gary Awdey<br />
&gt; Eden, New York</p>
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